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Reimplementation of Sambar

 
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Starbetrayer



Joined: 20 Jan 2008
Posts: 10
Location: Fairfax, VA

PostPosted: Wed 13 Aug '08 14:16    Post subject: Reimplementation of Sambar Reply with quote

Guys, i was wondering, could we maybe start a project of reimplementation of Sambar, as an open-source software ?
You have to admit that even if apache exists, it is not as practical as sambar server.
Give me your opinions on the subject.
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mbsouth



Joined: 13 Jun 2004
Posts: 80
Location: Austria

PostPosted: Fri 15 Aug '08 23:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Starbetrayer!

Quote:
You have to admit that even if apache exists, it is not as practical as sambar server.

Sambar-Server is an All-In-One Server , Apache is a pure HTTP-Server with modules you can use (enable) or not.
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...start a project of reimplementation of Sambar, as an open-source software ?

Tod Sambar did a great work, he spent a lot of time into his out-of-the-box server, thats true. First you need the source code from Tod and second C or C++ developer...! If you have twice you be able to start an open source project!

I have still running two Sambar-Server (latest beta) with some VHOSTs and a lot of mail accounts (I´ll move this vhost to my new systems in the upcomming weeks). Sambars greylisting is still an issue...!

All my new production systems are Debian Etch 4.0 server with Apache2 and PureFTP (as web server with mySQL auth) and Postfix 2.3, Dovecot (pop/imap), Postgrey, amavisd-new, ClamAV, SpamAssassin, Pyrazor and DCC as mail server systems (mySQl auth, virtual user and domains).

So I spent a lot of time and resources (hardware and money) to learn how Linux works. And it works - great too[!] but not so easy to configure as a Sambar-Server but much more secure as a M$ Windows Server (PHP<>VHOSTS<>and Windows should be a clue...)

mbsouth
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Starbetrayer



Joined: 20 Jan 2008
Posts: 10
Location: Fairfax, VA

PostPosted: Sat 16 Aug '08 19:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

I disagree that we need the source code of Tod.
Objectively, he is not a nice person cause he left his users without support nor the source code.
We can develop a project to mimic the features of the server sambar, and for sure it will take time.
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mbsouth



Joined: 13 Jun 2004
Posts: 80
Location: Austria

PostPosted: Sun 17 Aug '08 19:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

...as the saying goes...
Quote:
...to reinvent the wheel

Quote:
Objectively, he is not a nice person cause he left his users without support nor the source code.

Have you ever thought about why he did that?

Quote:
We can develop a project to mimic the features of the server sambar, and for sure it will take time.

...and a lot of money...!

HTTP Server:
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!!!!!!! Apache
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!!!!!!!! Lighttpd Web Server
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nginx
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POP3/IMAP Server:
!!!!!!!! Courier
!!!!!!!! Dovecot

Try it, use it, enjoy it...!
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Starbetrayer



Joined: 20 Jan 2008
Posts: 10
Location: Fairfax, VA

PostPosted: Mon 18 Aug '08 0:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

no support for the users, i can understand if he was sick or anything else, then abandonning the soft and the users without giving the source code.
Moreover, no new product from his part, sorry but he is an ass.

Reinvent the wheel, sorry no, there is no all in one server, but separate softwares.
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mbsouth



Joined: 13 Jun 2004
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Location: Austria

PostPosted: Mon 18 Aug '08 4:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

Separate software is much more scalable as a out-of the-box solution.

If you are new to Linux have a look at http://www.howtoforge.com/ .

There a a lot of "The perfect server installation" how to´s.

If you want to run a hosting provider solution, take different machines for each services like web, e-mail, spam filtering, ftp, dns... and do this twice - like clustering.
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Starbetrayer



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PostPosted: Mon 18 Aug '08 11:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

i am not a newbie and i know how to configure my stuff, i am just saying that there is no all in one solution.
I understand the both sides and the both advantages and drawbacks.
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tage



Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Posts: 18
Location: denmark

PostPosted: Mon 27 Apr '15 17:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

Linux Tutorials for “howto sambar” on howtoforge.com you get this answer: No tutorials found.

and I give Starbetrayer absolutely right that it would be great if there was anyone who could handle the assignment to create a development / maintenance of Sambar Server

I too understand the both sides and the both advantages and drawbacks.

As Tod has chosen not to pursue the project, it was fair that he gave permission for the project was made to an open source project, as with Linux, and maybe even a free project.
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Dwayne



Joined: 22 May 2016
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PostPosted: Sun 22 May '16 8:48    Post subject: If we build it, they will come.... Reply with quote

Well, if people are still interested in the all-in-one server idea, I'd be happy to help out with a Sambar-esque project.

I run dedicated servers on Linux and Windows for many clients and business applications, and it is a pain having to restart/start services constantly when you have several on each box.

Back in the days of using Samabar I found this being a much simpler task, and the fact it came bundled with a web ui was just the icing on the cake.

Everything all in one place - awesome! BTW I still use Opera12 as it has a similar aspect (all-in-one).

So, if anyone wants to go down this road shout out!

I code in Perl, and have a some experience in sockets. You can build almost anything in Perl Smile

Ok those be my words and thoughts...

Dwayne
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gussuk



Joined: 21 Jul 2004
Posts: 16
Location: Anchorage, Alaska

PostPosted: Tue 31 May '16 5:35    Post subject: Still using Sambar Reply with quote

I'm disappointed to hear the sambarinfo is going down now too. Still using sambar for my personal web/mail server. I rarely ever have problems and if i do i just drop a saved copy on top of the running copy and I'm up and running again.
Please let me know if someone else picks up this site.
Thanks
Steve
In Alaska
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SirArthur



Joined: 19 Aug 2004
Posts: 10

PostPosted: Thu 29 Nov '18 18:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has been quite a while since I used this software.
However, looking back at it, it still has some value indeed. Hardly anyone can find such a suite around.
Too bad some protocols are already outdated (11 years outdated there is), but it would be something to think of recycle.
So far I put one VPS running it, just for fun. Let's see what pops-up.
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