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Reply to topic   Topic: TrueCrypt | Disk Partion
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C0nw0nk



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PostPosted: Mon 05 May '14 4:38    Post subject: TrueCrypt | Disk Partion Reply with quote

http://www.truecrypt.org/

So in windows i create a disk partion called "F:/"

With the space F:/ i encrypt it using true crypt then store my entire server apache websites everything in that location.

But i have a question for the server to decrypt the contents and deliever it does this slow it down since my intel cpu(s) has to decrypt the AES algorithm first.

I have no idea if anyone is familure with disk encryptions here or not ?
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James Blond
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PostPosted: Mon 05 May '14 16:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

it depends which type you use. Like decrypt while mount won't make a difference. But if you decrypt your files on the fly, it will some kinda slow your server down.

I have no experience with that (TM)
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jraute



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PostPosted: Fri 09 May '14 16:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, decryption takes time and cpu-ressources, that is correct. But the normal performance of modern cpu's (i3, i5, i7, ...) handling files out of and into a truecrypt container is at a minimum of round about 100 Mbytes/s as long as the disk storage can handle that - for a normal application surely no bottleneck.
Check that your disk storage is fast enough, maybe use a ssd.
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C0nw0nk



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PostPosted: Fri 09 May '14 17:37    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have 2x 3 TB SATA3 hard drives even though my setup is my hard drives are dynamic and 1 hard drive mirrors the other so if one fails the other is still fine and no data loss.
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AdrianK_IT



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PostPosted: Wed 28 May '14 15:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the bandwidth of your (upload) pipe to the internet? (Upload, 'cos that will be the max download bandwidth for clients.)

I suspect other factors might be largely irrelevant; connectivity bandwidth will be the limiting factor.
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C0nw0nk



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PostPosted: Wed 28 May '14 20:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

AdrianK_IT wrote:
What is the bandwidth of your (upload) pipe to the internet? (Upload, 'cos that will be the max download bandwidth for clients.)

I suspect other factors might be largely irrelevant; connectivity bandwidth will be the limiting factor.


1GBPS (Up and Down)
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AdrianK_IT



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PostPosted: Wed 28 May '14 21:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

1 GBPS (GigaBytes Per Second)? Or 1 Gbps (Gigabits per second)? Theoretical maximum, or actual?
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C0nw0nk



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PostPosted: Thu 29 May '14 9:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

1 GigaByte per second, Actual connection speed. Servers with www.OVH.co.uk, I have to have allot of bandwidth since i deal with video streams. (Media Installations)
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Jan-E



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PostPosted: Thu 29 May '14 20:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote from http://truecrypt.sourceforge.net/
Quote:
WARNING: Using TrueCrypt is not secure as it may contain unfixed security issues

This page exists only to help migrate existing data encrypted by TrueCrypt.

The development of TrueCrypt was ended in 5/2014 after Microsoft terminated support of Windows XP.
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C0nw0nk



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PostPosted: Fri 30 May '14 17:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wounder what the security issues are... I google but don't see anything nor how you would decrypt a AES algorithm anyway.
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AdrianK_IT



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PostPosted: Fri 30 May '14 21:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can find no reference at OVH to GigaByte per sec connection speeds. This is no surprise; it is customary to express (long distance) serial connection speeds in bits per sec, since this is how they work, one bit after another.

Need to be clear about what units one is using if one wants to monitor/calculate likely effects of encryption.

As I understnd it, your disks can chuck data at your CPU at 600 MB/s, whereas your CPU can only chuck data at your clients at 128 MB/s (limited by your bandwidth, never mind theirs!). I doubt encryption is a problem!
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C0nw0nk



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PostPosted: Fri 30 May '14 23:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

OVH http://www.ovh.co.uk/dedicated_servers/bandwidth-upgrade.xml

Either way i have no problem with truecrypt decrypting data on the fly.
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Jan-E



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PostPosted: Sun 01 Jun '14 20:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://truecrypt.ch/
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C0nw0nk



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PostPosted: Sun 01 Jun '14 20:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Jan-E maybe the original developers just decided after all these years they don't want to keep maintaining a amazing bit of freeware.
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jraute



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PostPosted: Mon 02 Jun '14 9:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

If only one could ask the developers just one simple question "if they are keep on using their own software?" And if the answer would be yes, no one need to be doubtfully.

(This could be a question, which is probably allowed ... Wink)

But who knows the real reasons?!

I am looking forward to see the final results from the audit, as long as nobody manipulate the result (the next doubt ...).
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C0nw0nk



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PostPosted: Mon 02 Jun '14 13:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will answer some questions that will make you doubt TrueCrypt original developers anyway even though the program was open source and on the website they claim they did not backdoor it even when goverments asked them to.

When you take the source code and compile it yourself your file sizes and outputs will be allot different to the version you download from TrueCrypt.org

Looking forward to what the audit produces and i wouldn't doubt the security anyway if you encrypt with a AES / AES Two fish serpant algorithm you are more than secure enough. Only Dictionary attacks and rainbow tables (A very big list of known and exsisting passwords) could possibly gain access to it. Decrypting it is impossible.
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jraute



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PostPosted: Mon 02 Jun '14 14:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

C0nw0nk wrote:

When you take the source code and compile it yourself your file sizes and outputs will be allot different to the version you download from TrueCrypt.org


That's nothing i wonder about, because the windows version includes a digital signature otherwise you would be asked during installation if you trust third party software ...
This digital signature needs some bytes.
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C0nw0nk



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PostPosted: Mon 02 Jun '14 17:44    Post subject: Reply with quote

True i suppose but i think this is a better way for TrueCrypt to go maintained and run in a community rather than just 1 person be more updates new features Very Happy

Also do you use BitLocker and i cant find anywhere but does BitLocker offer hidden partitions ? Or isit only TrueCrypt that allows us to have hidden system partitions.
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jraute



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PostPosted: Mon 02 Jun '14 23:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't get me wrong, at the moment i still trust truecrypt and would never choose a product from microsoft, google, apple or one of the other big players - it is known that they work with the nsa and co.

the thing is, if there is some kind of weak code or whatever, how can the community get an update, a patch, support?
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C0nw0nk



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PostPosted: Tue 03 Jun '14 18:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe it is a better way to go it will be down to one person to compile a official version as always but nothing stops us taking the source code to that updated version and compiling it ourselves.

And besides the amount of people reverse engineering that compiled file and looking for obfuscated code will soon show how trust worthy it is.
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