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sb.net



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PostPosted: Mon 25 Sep '06 2:16    Post subject: Firewall Reply with quote

I use McAfee, and I have to open port 80 and 21. And I open a hole in my security. What should I use, or how do I make McAfee allow Apache to serve?

Thanks Very Happy
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Jorge



Joined: 12 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Sep '06 16:42    Post subject: Re: Firewall Reply with quote

sb.net wrote:
I use McAfee, and I have to open port 80 and 21. And I open a hole in my security. What should I use, or how do I make McAfee allow Apache to serve?

Thanks Very Happy

If you also have McAfee Antivir you might need to add that aswel. By default my McAfee Ent 8.0i block all trafic on port 80, 21 and 25
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sb.net



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PostPosted: Mon 25 Sep '06 17:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

what do you mean?
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Jorge



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PostPosted: Mon 25 Sep '06 21:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some virusscanner (usually corporate) block some basic ports aswel, check there to see if its bocking apache
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sb.net



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PostPosted: Mon 25 Sep '06 21:59    Post subject: Reply with quote

no it is when i go to McAfee security center > persional firewall plus > options > system services, it lists common ports. if i check these apache works outside of my network and it opens a hole. if i uncheck these i can not get to it from the outside (it puts it on stealth).

I have McAfee virus scan. not anti-virus.
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Jorge



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PostPosted: Tue 26 Sep '06 8:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah you mean the security center tells you there is a hole with port 80 open?

Aslong as its your apache that is listening on there and y ou have secured apache you don't have to worry about that.
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sb.net



Joined: 22 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Sep '06 16:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

No https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2 tells me.
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Steffen
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Sep '06 18:42    Post subject: Reply with quote

Puzzling what your point is.

You only want to use Apache with localhost ?
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sb.net



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PostPosted: Tue 26 Sep '06 19:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

no i am hosting sites at softwarebase.net. i am hosting it on my server. but it does not work outside of my network if mcafee puts the ports on stealth.
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Steffen
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Sep '06 19:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

I you want to serve you should open port 80 in your firewall/mcafee.

Still puzzling what you issue/problem is.


Last edited by Steffen on Tue 26 Sep '06 21:25; edited 1 time in total
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sb.net



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PostPosted: Tue 26 Sep '06 21:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I you want to serve you should open port 80 in your firewall/mcafee.


it is when i open it that it opens a hole. it works fine when it is open.
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Steffen
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Sep '06 21:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

You said "opens a hole" , please explain. Sure https://www.grc.com should say Open, otherwise you cannot serve. Port 80 should be open when you run a http server.

Or are you a little kidding here.


Steffen
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sb.net



Joined: 22 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Sep '06 21:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

well i do not want people to hack my sever. But if it has to be open then i will open it.
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DeliriumServers



Joined: 17 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Sep '06 0:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jorge wrote:
Aslong as its your apache that is listening on there and you have secured apache you don't have to worry about that.


like jorge said. if apache is running, it is filling this hole. your virus suite is dumb Exclamation
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sb.net



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PostPosted: Wed 27 Sep '06 2:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, thanks.
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Jorge



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PostPosted: Wed 27 Sep '06 9:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok let me try and explain this the very simple (don't take this as offencive, it isn't ment to be so):



Browser <--> |FIREWALL| <--> Server

That wouldn't work sicne the firewall blocks it... look at it as putting a pipe to again the wall at one end and one at exact the same spot at the other end.

You can't expect water to run though it it would stop at the wall (aka firewall in your case).

Now you could drill a hole in the wall where the pipes connect. problem solved!

You might think then rats, bugs,... can get in through the hole?

Well yes... but not if the pipe is connected at the hole then there is no way for the rats etc to get in since the pipe is blocking access.

Hopefully this explains it.
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sb.net



Joined: 22 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Sep '06 14:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I got that. Smile But anyway thanks, that's a great explanation.
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