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Reply to topic   Topic: Apache HTTP Server 2.2.2 Released
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James Blond
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PostPosted: Mon 01 May '06 10:31    Post subject: Apache HTTP Server 2.2.2 Released Reply with quote

Now the 2.2.2 ist out. Nowhere I have seen a Windows version, but here!
on httpd.apache.org is only 2.0.58 in msi for Windows.


For details see http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/Announcement2.2.html
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Tiago



Joined: 05 Apr 2006
Posts: 5
Location: Western Europe

PostPosted: Mon 01 May '06 21:53    Post subject: Re: Apache HTTP Server 2.2.2 Released (Unix) Reply with quote

James Blond wrote:
Now the 2.2.2 ist out. Nowhere I have seen a Windows version, but here!
on httpd.apache.org is only 2.0.58 in msi for Windows.


For details see http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/Announcement2.2.html
You are right. As of 2.0.58 apache.org have the usual no_ssl release but also the ssl release.
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Steffen
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Joined: 15 Oct 2005
Posts: 3053
Location: Hilversum, NL, EU

PostPosted: Mon 01 May '06 22:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

An interesting thread on the Apache list.
For now I do not expect an ASF Win32 binary for 2.2.2, so I continue to have it available here at the Apache Lounge.

Steffen

Quote:
Yevgen Borodin wrote:
> Why couldn't there be a stable 2.2.2 Win32 Apache release?
> So tired of random bugs in 2.0.55... Sad

Because Apache HTTP Server is a source code development project.

We don't exist to help users of any specific platform.

Binaries are provided at the convenience of a contributor, if at all.

Why on earth would Win32 merit a comment or priority over, say, a Solaris
pkg or a Linux rpm?

If you want random bugs, try a build of 2.2.0, that should send you screaming
back to 2.0.40.

Read the announce again. Did it say there *ISN'T*? Or rather, that
there would not be? Or did it say anything at all about it?

I've said it time and time again, 2.2.2 will be the first Win32 binary
distribution to hit the httpd download site from -me-. Others have rolled
binaries of 2.2.0 you can obtain.

The biggest pissing and moaning, more than 2.2.foo, was for win32-x86-ssl.msi.
Guess what? The ASF has already finished the notification process of 0.9.7
and our mod_ssl, so there ya go. For binary compat, with all the folks that
already use mod_ssl, in 2.0 they used 0.9.7 forever. So that's what it is.

In the interim, shaking out the cobwebs from my december efforts to get 2.2
installer working, and think that it's there. I'm checking documentation to
see if openssl 0.9.8 notification has to be made, or if it's already done.
It makes no sense to have 2.2 bundled with the old 0.9.7 - we're in 2006
already, and 0.9.8 shipped within weeks of 2.2.0. So why use anything but?

Even if it didn't have a bit more installation testing and comprehensive rewrite
of the README page, along with this openssl notification question ... I'm just
as tempted to leave this sit another few days, seeing that it took a whopping
three hours for folks to start pissing and moaning.

Is it missing because notification process isn't finished? Missing because of
the README update for wldap32.dll dependencies? Missing because of the major
refactoring of the config files? Or missing because a few whiners bit the hand
that feeds them? Only one will ever know.

We voulenteer to this effort for fun. If you want to treat the voulenteers
as your paid staff, you can damn well pay them. Lots of folks know how to build
win32 binaries for you and would be happy to take your check. Since 2.2 dropped
and the complaints started, several HTTP'ers have even suggested that binaries
should be dropped, altogether, and leave folks to their own devices or OS vendor
to provide them the binaries. Hopefully for you that isn't what happens.

Bill
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Tiago



Joined: 05 Apr 2006
Posts: 5
Location: Western Europe

PostPosted: Mon 01 May '06 22:24    Post subject: Re: Apache HTTP Server 2.2.2 Released Reply with quote

James Blond wrote:
Now the 2.2.2 ist out. Nowhere I have seen a Windows version, but here!
on httpd.apache.org is only 2.0.58 in msi for Windows.


For details see http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/Announcement2.2.html
I post it here 'cos I think this is of general interest.

The 2.0.55 mod_s in the download area will run under 2.0.58 or they will be updated?
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Steffen
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Joined: 15 Oct 2005
Posts: 3053
Location: Hilversum, NL, EU

PostPosted: Mon 01 May '06 23:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the question.

They work with 2.0.58, no changes in the api.

I updated the download page.


Steffen
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Steffen
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Joined: 15 Oct 2005
Posts: 3053
Location: Hilversum, NL, EU

PostPosted: Wed 03 May '06 19:58    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good news for all the .msi lovers. ASF made a binary available (non-ssl).

I expect less downloads here, so I removed the login at the download page.

Steffen
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Mitron



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Posts: 63

PostPosted: Wed 03 May '06 20:37    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steffen wrote:
An interesting thread on the Apache list.
For now I do not expect an ASF Win32 binary for 2.2.2, so I continue to have it available here at the Apache Lounge.


Sheesh.. I thought the phpBB team was a bunch of complainers, looks like ASF is inflicted as well. If these guys don't like coding free software they should get a job already. If you're going to commit yourself to a free coding project you should realize that if you half-ass the code, people will complain. Making a multi-platform application only partially available to only those who can compile it in Windows is just rediculous.

Also, if the PHP team and ASF are so "married", why is it we have to use a patched handler to make them work together. Sounds to me like they have more of a "legal separation" or one got caught sleeping around. LOL

It would be nice to see these guys get their shit together on these releases so we don't have to run all over the net just to find small peices of information we need to make these things work. At least update the documentation before you release the thing.

Ok, I'm off my soapbox. Smile
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Tiago



Joined: 05 Apr 2006
Posts: 5
Location: Western Europe

PostPosted: Sat 06 May '06 0:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was happy enough (I guess) to download apache_2.0.58-win32-x86-ssl.msi; now it's no longer available for download at ASF. Can't understand why...
Anyway you can get if from http://pwp.netcabo.pt/tfl/apache_2.0.58-win32-x86-ssl.msi
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