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 Topic: PHP 8.5.0 RC5, 8.4.15 RC1, 8.3.28 RC1 available |
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Jan-E
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Jan-E
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 Posted: Thu 07 Aug '25 0:22 Post subject: |
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Significant change for PHP 8.5+: OPcache will be compiled statically into PHP. You will have to remove ‘zend_extension=opcache’ from php.ini for PHP 8.5 and upwards.
See PHP 8.5.0 alpha 4 now. Backgroundinfo: https://externals.io/message/127643
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jimski
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| Posted: Mon 22 Sep '25 5:53 Post subject: |
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@Jan-E, The PHP nts binaries 8.5.0 on Windows 10 VS17, are throwing errors pertaining to some PHP extensions.
This is the binary throwing errors:
https://phpdev.toolsforresearch.com/php-8.5.0alpha4-nts-Win32-vs17-x64.zip
The older binaries 8.4.11 nts are throwing the same errors.
The following errors are reported in php_error.log:
[20-Sep-2025 21:02:02 UTC] PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library 'ffmpeg' (tried: E:\Server\PHP\ext\ffmpeg (The specified module could not be found), E:\Server\PHP\ext\php_ffmpeg.dll (The specified module could not be found)) in Unknown on line 0
[20-Sep-2025 21:02:02 UTC] PHP Warning: Missing arginfo for xxhash32() in Unknown on line 0
[20-Sep-2025 21:02:02 UTC] PHP Warning: Missing arginfo for xxhash64() in Unknown on line 0
[20-Sep-2025 21:02:02 UTC] PHP Warning: Missing arginfo for xxhash64Unsigned() in Unknown on line 0
The php_ffmpeg.dll is present in the \ext folder together with all other extensions, so the error "module could not be found" is most likely related to the the fact that ffmpeg was built different way than the core PHP.
Please see my post about the same problem with older binaries: https://www.apachelounge.com/viewtopic.php?p=43752#43752 |
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_ck_
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| Posted: Wed 19 Nov '25 21:15 Post subject: |
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Requesting a simple patch for php 8.5 to allow it to run on older windows installs please?
There's a change in the way GetCurrentThreadStackLimits is called
it breaks with
| Quote: | "The procedure entry point GetCurrentThreadStackLimits could not be located in the dynamic link library KERNEL32.dll"
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but a simple edit gives an easy workaround
https://github.com/php/php-src/issues/12762
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/52403473/get-current-used-stack-size-for-win7/52404641
for some reason they never applied this fix upstream so it has to be done during custom build
Figure it cannot hurt to ask?
Thanks for considering and many thanks for all the builds over the years... |
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nono303
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| Posted: Thu 20 Nov '25 9:14 Post subject: |
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Hi @_ck_
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Reasons had been explained by @ndossche on #12762
Here is the "working" patch for PHP 8.5 on Win 7 (understand exec & tests fine but with potential runtime and security issues)
Note that it's not anymore a simple edit and in my opinion, usage is strongly discouraged.
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Jan-E
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| Posted: Fri 21 Nov '25 15:52 Post subject: |
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| nono303 wrote: | Note that it's not anymore a simple edit and in my opinion, usage is strongly discouraged.
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I totally agree. I recompiled 8.5.0RC5 with the win7 patch from https://gist.github.com/nono303/be0f9b3f04da2ee921b938a0ab8f1e74 but will not recompile releases. As long as the patch applies I will compile future RC's with the patch. |
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_ck_
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Jan-E
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| _ck_ wrote: | and just to help the next person, the VC runtimes for 14.44 from the regular Microsoft download will refuse to install below Windows10
However these VCRedist 14.44 versions direct from Microsoft will install on ANY Windows |
Not on Windows XP. Yes. I tried |
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_ck_
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okay I lol'd
somewhere there are ATMs still running XP, I've seen them reboot
there are some die-hard fans out there probably on reddit who could make XP VCredist happen but not worth the effort
I actually have a windows7 box running next to a windows10 box but I never missed XP
thanks goodness for LTSC because win11 is never going to happen, will become 100% linux by then |
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jimski
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| Posted: Tue 25 Nov '25 2:54 Post subject: |
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| _ck_ wrote: | okay I lol'd
I actually have a windows7 box running next to a windows10 box but I never missed XP
thanks goodness for LTSC because win11 is never going to happen, will become 100% linux by then |
I missed XP! and I also run Win 7 along 10 and 11 and Linux. Apache on XP outperforms every single subsequent windows release by 15-30%. Win 10 with disabled Defender is still 15-20% slower than win XP.
As of 2025 there is not a single version of windows that can host a web server with a reasonable performance. Apache on winodws delivers 10 times lower performance (in dynamic requests per second) than on Linux, and IIS in not much better. And to make it worse MS discontinued PHP releases for IIS and is officially not supporting PHP (although it is still possible to run it) If MS continues this practice they will lose server market share for web hosting even more, and Linux already has 80% to 90% of this market (estimates vary) |
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