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axel.kam



Joined: 11 Jul 2023
Posts: 19

PostPosted: Mon 23 Feb '26 12:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

admin wrote:
I can download,see https://www.apachelounge.com/PHPDownloads.png


Sorry for my English.

I mean that site https://windows.php.net/download no more contain the newest version of PHP.

Newest version they public at this link https://www.php.net/downloads.php

No "windows" at URI
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admin
Site Admin


Joined: 15 Oct 2005
Posts: 729

PostPosted: Mon 23 Feb '26 15:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

I asked AI :

Status 3221226356 (0xC0000374) = heap corruption → mostly :

❗ PHP DLL mismatch
❗ Verkeerde VC++ runtime
❗ Foute / corrupte PHP extension
❗ TS vs NTS fout (they advise TS)
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admin
Site Admin


Joined: 15 Oct 2005
Posts: 729

PostPosted: Mon 23 Feb '26 19:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

Extra info :

❗ Windows heap corruption
❗ Memory overwrite
❗ Double free
❗ Thread race condition

Dat wijst bijna altijd op:
• PHP extension bug
• mod_php + threads conflict
• OPCache memory issue
• DLL mismatch
• 3rd party module
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axel.kam



Joined: 11 Jul 2023
Posts: 19

PostPosted: Tue 24 Feb '26 1:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

admin wrote:
Extra info


Yes, I working at this list, but in production its need more time to localise issue.
I can't repeat problem with same config but another same PC with another site.

What i know today:
Hardware is ok, all test is ok.
Win11 Pro 25H2 is the latest OS with update
Of course latest VS build 14.50.35719, reinstall it twice
Latest drivers update from vendors
PHP is TS mode (fastcgi is crashed too) 8.4.18
With PHP 8.5.0-8.5.3 have the same crash, but 8.5.x still young for Prod.
All VS17 builds workind fine
Build from 23 feb crashing too

I try to disable site by site, modules, and configs.

Maybe not apache issue, maybe something in my script or OS. Or load type. Yes I distribute big static file without nginx, but Apache should be designed for this. Or not? Smile

In crash moment no records in any log. It seems to happen during idle time.

Today I run Application Verifier and waiting for a next crash.
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nono303



Joined: 20 Dec 2016
Posts: 220
Location: Lille, FR, EU

PostPosted: Tue 24 Feb '26 6:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi @axel.kam,
Quote:
Today I run Application Verifier and waiting for a next crash

You can also use procdump to create a dump on exception using this command:
Code:
procdump -ma -e -w httpd.exe

see https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/procdump
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Crafted



Joined: 04 Feb 2026
Posts: 20

PostPosted: Tue 24 Feb '26 12:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steffen wrote:
Please try.

Now VS17 with the new curl, jansson and Openssl 3.6.1

https://www.apachelounge.com/download/VS17/binaries/Apache24-66-260222-Win64-VS17.rar


Here we go again:

[Tue Feb 24 06:40:35.172260 2026] [mpm_winnt:notice] [pid 4696:tid 424] AH00428: Parent: child process 4244 exited with status 3221226356 -- Restarting.
[Tue Feb 24 06:40:38.094098 2026] [mpm_winnt:notice] [pid 4696:tid 424] AH00455: Apache/2.4.66 (Win64) OpenSSL/3.6.1 configured -- resuming normal operations
[Tue Feb 24 06:40:38.094577 2026] [mpm_winnt:notice] [pid 4696:tid 424] AH00456: Apache Lounge VS17 erver built: Feb 22 2026 13:55:38
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tangent
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Joined: 16 Aug 2020
Posts: 422
Location: UK

PostPosted: Tue 24 Feb '26 22:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reviewing this lengthy thread over Apache stability, I'm concerned it appears to be focusing on HTTPD build code, rather than considering a resource issue that could well be resolved with configuration changes.

In particular, I note no one's mentioned ThreadStackSize or ThreadsPerChild.

Historically, I came across any number of Windows setups where the default thread stack size wasn't enough, and seem to recall MS chose a lowly figure of 1MB. I'd want to match a Linux figure of 8MB, and scale ThreadsPerChild according to system resources and the available memory. That in turn depends on what else is running on the server, PHP, database, etc.

With mpm_winnt, there is only one process, so you need to allocate sufficient threads to support the expected connection load. In one part of the post, I note Axel.Kam's log mentions 192 worker threads, which sounds pretty low to me. Even if you set ThreadsPerChild at 512, with ThreadStackSize at 8MB that would only take up 4GB of thread stack memory if all threads were active.

The other parameter I used to change was MaxConnectionsPerChild which defaults to 0, meaning unlimited. If any module linked to a child process leaks memory, then eventually it will fail and crash. Limiting the number of connection requests it serves can circumvent this problem, at the expense of some extra overhead in restarting that child process.

If it's not impertinent, resource permitting, I'd suggest considering trying something like this:
Code:

<IfModule mpm_winnt_module>
   ThreadStackSize 8388608
   ThreadsPerChild 512
   MaxConnectionsPerChild 2048
</IfModule>

Other people's views appreciated.
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Crafted



Joined: 04 Feb 2026
Posts: 20

PostPosted: Tue 24 Feb '26 23:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

tangent wrote:

In particular, I note no one's mentioned ThreadStackSize or ThreadsPerChild.


Crafted wrote:

and everything I tried (set ThreadStackSize 8388608 / AcceptFilter none, switching through different php versions, even tried mod_fcgid) did not worked
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RikasMalinka



Joined: 07 Jan 2026
Posts: 8
Location: Poland

PostPosted: Tue 24 Feb '26 23:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ve been running Apache HTTP Server 2.4.66 Win64 (build 260223) for more than 24 hours now, and there have been no crashes so far.

This is the most stable run I’ve had with version 2.4.66 to date.
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