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Jan-E



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PostPosted: Fri 10 Jul '20 1:39    Post subject: Windows builds of PHP Reply with quote

See https://externals.io/message/110907 for an announcement that took me by surprise:

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We are committed to maintaining development and building of PHP on Windows for 7.2, 7.3 and 7.4 as long as they are officially supported. We are not, however, going to be supporting PHP for Windows in any capacity for version 8.0 and beyond.


Microsoft seems to be stopping with PHP building on windows.php.net, starting with PHP 8.
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PostPosted: Fri 10 Jul '20 19:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wanted to ask you before. I can make for you a separate forum.
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Jan-E



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PostPosted: Fri 10 Jul '20 19:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the offer, but I decline. It is better to leave it like it is now. I really do not want to be sued because someone thinks my builds have any official status.

BTW: I suppose you are following my frontal attack on Microsoft's decision in php internals. It seems to be stirring up the discussion.
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PostPosted: Fri 10 Jul '20 19:37    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand.

Yep, I follow
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PostPosted: Fri 10 Jul '20 20:47    Post subject: Re: Windows builds of PHP Reply with quote

Jan-E wrote:
See https://externals.io/message/110907 for an announcement that took me by surprise:

Quote:
We are committed to maintaining development and building of PHP on Windows for 7.2, 7.3 and 7.4 as long as they are officially supported. We are not, however, going to be supporting PHP for Windows in any capacity for version 8.0 and beyond.


Microsoft seems to be stopping with PHP building on windows.php.net, starting with PHP 8.


It is only that Microsoft will stop their paid employees to work for free on PHP. That is what they have done in the past.
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Jan-E



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PostPosted: Fri 10 Jul '20 21:01    Post subject: Re: Windows builds of PHP Reply with quote

James Blond wrote:
Jan-E wrote:
See https://externals.io/message/110907 for an announcement that took me by surprise:

Quote:
We are committed to maintaining development and building of PHP on Windows for 7.2, 7.3 and 7.4 as long as they are officially supported. We are not, however, going to be supporting PHP for Windows in any capacity for version 8.0 and beyond.

Microsoft seems to be stopping with PHP building on windows.php.net, starting with PHP 8.

It is only that Microsoft will stop their paid employees to work for free on PHP. That is what they have done in the past.

Yes, they did. And to their own benefit. The contributions of especially Anatol Belski (weltling) are unparalelled.

A lot of companies make it possible for employees to work full-time on Open Source projects. I suppose even Microsoft is still doing that in a lot of OSS projects.

In the past there have been clashes between Zend and MS over the direction PHP development had to take. That balance will be gone now.
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puertoblack2003



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PostPosted: Fri 10 Jul '20 21:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

so, from what I'm understanding ms will stop 8.0 builds moving forward.any security issues that arise, who will maintain it? will PHP do the fixes or developers like jane-E will?
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Jan-E



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PostPosted: Fri 10 Jul '20 21:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

The PHP developers will have to fix security issues. let us hope that the interest in Windows fixes will not fade away.

The PHP project has to find another way to build the binaries. See the reaction of Sara Golemon, release manager of PHP 8 on reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PHP/comments/ho9dgq/microsoft_not_going_to_officially_support_php_8/fxgk1sc/
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