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Crafted
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Yeah
https://www.apachelounge.com/download/VS18/binaries/Apache24-66-Openssl3.5.5.rar crash too:
[Sat Feb 21 02:03:39.341213 2026] [mpm_winnt:notice] [pid 3892:tid 172] AH00428: Parent: child process 6272 exited with status 3221226356 -- Restarting.
[Sat Feb 21 02:03:39.451404 2026] [mpm_winnt:notice] [pid 3892:tid 172] AH00455: Apache/2.4.66 (Win64) OpenSSL/3.5.5 configured -- resuming normal operations
| Quote: | | Now I use VS17 build for production (httpd-2.4.66-251206-Win64-VS17.zip). |
Thanks for the tip, will try that too but they removed the download files, have to grab them from somewhere else... |
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Steffen
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| Posted: Sat 21 Feb '26 13:00 Post subject: |
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| VS17 links are back |
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Crafted
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| Posted: Sat 21 Feb '26 13:17 Post subject: |
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| Steffen wrote: | | VS17 links are back |
and the files ? I mean when you click on them you are redirected to the error page. |
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Crafted
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| Posted: Sat 21 Feb '26 13:27 Post subject: |
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ok
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Steffen
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| Posted: Sat 21 Feb '26 13:31 Post subject: |
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| They are back |
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axel.kam
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| Posted: Sat 21 Feb '26 16:24 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Thanks for the tip, will try that too but they removed the download files, have to grab them from somewhere else... |
Excellent, please give feedback if this helped fix your problem too. |
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axel.kam
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| Posted: Sat 21 Feb '26 16:33 Post subject: |
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| Steffen wrote: | | VS17 links are back |
Can you check instruction support between VS17 and 18 build system?
I found different in my "identical" hardware. More powerfull use i9-9900 CPU, and more slowly config use G5400 Pentium processor.
Pentium does not support AVX2 instruction set, and do not crash with VS18 builds.
Other component is the same. |
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axel.kam
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| Posted: Sat 21 Feb '26 16:50 Post subject: |
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| Steffen wrote: |
This is build the same as the VS17 one, now VS18 with no updated dependencies. So with curl 8.17.0 openssl 3.6.0 Jansson 2.14.1 , and build 4.2.bat |
Thanks.
Give me 2-3 days to confirm my or you theory  |
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axel.kam
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| Posted: Sun 22 Feb '26 8:52 Post subject: |
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| axeL wrote: |
Give me 2-3 days to confirm my or you theory |
I'm sorry, but it took only six hours to die with error.
From Windows error log:
AppName httpd.exe
AppVersion 2.4.66.0
AppTimeStamp 6999ad3f
ModuleName ntdll.dll
ModuleVersion 10.0.26100.7824
ModuleTimeStamp c140bef4
ExceptionCode c0000374
FaultingOffset 0000000000117665
ProcessId 0x3854
ProcessCreationTime 0x1dca37ff7c81ca2
AppPath C:\SERVER\DATA\apachex64\bin\httpd.exe
ModulePath C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll
IntegratorReportId d3d3c234-ae6c-4715-829e-41245ca63f80
PackageFullName
PackageRelativeAppId
From Apache error log:
[Sun Feb 22 10:18:12.750735 2026] [mpm_winnt:notice] [pid 3840:tid 432] AH00455: Apache/2.4.66 (Win64) OpenSSL/3.6.0 configured -- resuming normal operations
[Sun Feb 22 10:18:12.752740 2026] [mpm_winnt:notice] [pid 3840:tid 432] AH00456: Apache Lounge VS18 server built: Feb 21 2026 14:01:56
[Sun Feb 22 10:18:12.752740 2026] [core:notice] [pid 3840:tid 432] AH00094: Command line: 'C:\\SERVER\\DATA\\apachex64\\bin\\httpd.exe -d C:/SERVER/DATA/apachex64'
[Sun Feb 22 10:18:12.754745 2026] [mpm_winnt:notice] [pid 3840:tid 432] AH00418: Parent: Created child process 14420
[Sun Feb 22 10:18:13.090556 2026] [mpm_winnt:notice] [pid 14420:tid 444] AH00354: Child: Starting 192 worker threads.
[Sun Feb 22 16:28:14.274439 2026] [mpm_winnt:notice] [pid 3840:tid 432] AH00428: Parent: child process 14420 exited with status 3221226356 -- Restarting.
[Sun Feb 22 16:28:14.338661 2026] [mpm_winnt:notice] [pid 3840:tid 432] AH00455: Apache/2.4.66 (Win64) OpenSSL/3.6.0 configured -- resuming normal operations
[Sun Feb 22 16:28:14.338661 2026] [mpm_winnt:notice] [pid 3840:tid 432] AH00456: Apache Lounge VS18 server built: Feb 21 2026 14:01:56
[Sun Feb 22 16:28:14.338661 2026] [core:notice] [pid 3840:tid 432] AH00094: Command line: 'C:\\SERVER\\DATA\\apachex64\\bin\\httpd.exe -d C:/SERVER/DATA/apachex64'
[Sun Feb 22 16:28:14.342405 2026] [mpm_winnt:notice] [pid 3840:tid 432] AH00418: Parent: Created child process 3324
[Sun Feb 22 16:28:14.681571 2026] [mpm_winnt:notice] [pid 3324:tid 444] AH00354: Child: Starting 192 worker threads. |
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Steffen
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| Posted: Sun 22 Feb '26 10:21 Post subject: |
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So VS18 is the cause.
We do not know how many users are dealing with it. I put a note on the download page and ask users to report |
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| Posted: Sun 22 Feb '26 15:07 Post subject: |
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so last night (httpd-2.4.66-251206-Win64-VS17.zip) crashed too and it is VS 17 idk what else should I test.
[Sun Feb 22 13:35:12.487039 2026] [mpm_winnt:notice] [pid 620:tid 460] AH00428: Parent: child process 5384 exited with status 3221226356 -- Restarting.
[Sun Feb 22 13:35:15.067037 2026] [mpm_winnt:notice] [pid 620:tid 460] AH00455: Apache/2.4.66 (Win64) OpenSSL/3.6.0 configured -- resuming normal operations
[Sun Feb 22 13:35:15.067037 2026] [mpm_winnt:notice] [pid 620:tid 460] AH00456: Server built: Dec 6 2025 07:20:52
So I'm afraid your statement is not quite true. |
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| Posted: Sun 22 Feb '26 17:19 Post subject: |
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| Crafted wrote: | so last night (httpd-2.4.66-251206-Win64-VS17.zip) crashed too and it is VS 17 idk what else should I test.
[Sun Feb 22 13:35:12.487039 2026] [mpm_winnt:notice] [pid 620:tid 460] AH00428: Parent: child process 5384 exited with status 3221226356 -- Restarting.
[Sun Feb 22 13:35:15.067037 2026] [mpm_winnt:notice] [pid 620:tid 460] AH00455: Apache/2.4.66 (Win64) OpenSSL/3.6.0 configured -- resuming normal operations
[Sun Feb 22 13:35:15.067037 2026] [mpm_winnt:notice] [pid 620:tid 460] AH00456: Server built: Dec 6 2025 07:20:52
So I'm afraid your statement is not quite true. |
What is left that PHP is the cause. No crashes seen with other products.
Is it only PHP 8.5.x ?
You may try :
VS17 with the new curl, jansson and Openssl 3.6.1
https://www.apachelounge.com/download/VS17/binaries/Apache24-66-260222-Win64-VS17.rar |
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Crafted
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| Posted: Sun 22 Feb '26 20:17 Post subject: |
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| admin wrote: | | Is it only PHP 8.5.x ? |
No, happened with 8.4 too, and please stop blaming php they are fine, any php works with no crash with 2.4.65
| admin wrote: | You may try :
VS17 with the new curl, jansson and Openssl 3.6.1 |
Yes I'm already on it now, waiting results. |
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| Posted: Sun 22 Feb '26 22:45 Post subject: |
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| MIP wrote: | | Since I’m using PHP with fcgid, shouldn’t the PHP version I use be NTS? I’ve always used the NTS version without any issues. If I downgrade to 2.4.65 and keep the same NTS PHP version, the instabilities disappear. |
You can use NTS (non thread safe) because if it crashes it shouldn't bring apache down. The TS = Thread safe version has a few check to make sure it doesn't crash. Those checks take some time.So it is a little slower. But in real world it didn't matter to me with thousands of requests. The TS version runs fine. |
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James Blond
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| Posted: Sun 22 Feb '26 22:48 Post subject: |
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For all those people with this problem. Download a clean version from Apache Lounge. Download a fresh version from windows.php.net. Follow the setup of https://www.apachelounge.com/viewtopic.php?t=2394
Then change the port of apache like 8080 and 8443 to run a parallel instance for testing. Or simply use a different machine for your tests. |
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Crafted
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| Posted: Sun 22 Feb '26 23:16 Post subject: |
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| James Blond wrote: | | You can use NTS (non thread safe) because if it crashes it shouldn't bring apache down. |
Nope, not true in this specific case, apache crash/restart no matter if php is ts or not, as module or fcgi. |
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